In March, I got to hang out with one of my favourite people in the world, artist and writer Sophia Al-Maria at the Global Art Forum at the Art Dubai festival. (Pictured with Lana Shamma)

The video is now up of the conversation we had with curator Shumon Basar about why the deep past of the desert is also the perennial projection of literary and cinematic futures. It’s possibly best described as… a time-travel trip through Oman and Australia, Namibia and South Africa, via Tatooine, Abu Dhabi and Arrakis. So, as twisty and loopy as we are, really.

Here’s the video: